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  IF there were two classes/callings why were all early Christians limited...

  by oompa in

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  ...to only being called to heaven as part of the 144k?

  god is not partial, and does not predestine people, so why could first century christians not have had an option for paradise on earth?

  i got to thinking about this since last year wt opened the doors to heaven again for the masses for the first time since 1935. .

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  Alligator Wisdom

  Good question Oompa.

  However, a typical JW answer would be taken from this:

  (Revelation 14:4) 4 These are the ones that did not defile themselves with women; in fact, they are virgins. These are the ones that keep following the Lamb no matter where he goes. These were bought from among mankind as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb,

  "Firstfruits" is what JWs will define as those with the heavenly calling as being selected first and foremost.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

  P.S. Don't ask me to defend this position. I'm just relating to you what would possilby be the JW answer to your "If" question.
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  New bookstudy slips?

  by yourmomma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone seen these new bookstudy slips?

  they have a chart where the conducter is to put a check mark after each meeting the student attends and then average it out at the end of the month.

  whats next?

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  Alligator Wisdom

  I haven't seen or heard of slips of this type. Currently I'm the book study group assistant to the overseer and I have yet to come across any charts that are designed to record attendance of individuals, whether baptized or not.

  "yourmomma", this may be an isolated case in your congregation or book study group.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Why I don't want to associate with pioneers

  by JimmyPage in

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  2. friends

  sometimes i get flak for not having more "spiritual" associates.

  the reason i don't really care for pioneers is that whatever interests or hobbies they have get replaced by the whole pioneering thing.

  they become less like normal people and become more a clone of what a good dub "should" be.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  The reason I don't really care for pioneers is that whatever interests or hobbies they have...

  What "hobbies or interests" do pioneers have? (other than anything theocratic related)

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  EXJW Book Reading in Atlanta

  by The Doc 58 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a reading scheduled on may 15th in atlanta, ga. it is a new restaurant called the lamplighter cafe.

  as an exjw, my book is about the experiences me and my friend faced gowing up in the religion and trying to be normal adults.

  my book is called 'the colon chronicles'.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  Will you be translating your work into English, or will it only be available in Gibberish?

  Dud comeback.

  Nathan, believe it or not, you need to work on your feeble attempts at wit. Doc58, I hope your endeavors are successful. Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  March BOE Financial Letter?

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i received an email from a sister-undercover -apostate saying someone had posted on her anti-jw group that there was a boe dated march 1, 2008 about local kh financial accounts and the wts.. my fading doesn't always let me log-on much and i couldn't find anything under "boe letter" with last month search tool.

  has this been discussed?

  i stopped by the kh today and checked the board and we had nothing posted (not really expecting to see it posted either).. here is the cut/paste of her email to me:.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  Here is the thread on it:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/154911/1.ashx

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  I see Dead People...

  by zeroday in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and other famous movie lines....what's yours...

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  Alligator Wisdom

  "SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE"

  Charlton Heston as Robert Thorn in 1973 movie Soylent Green

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  NEW TRACT CAMPAIGN PLANNED....

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ....for october 20 - november 16.. there is a new tract to be introduced, with the title "do you want to know the truth?".

  it is not a "kingdom news" campaign - after the campaign, this tract will join the "regular rotation" of tracts to be used in the field misery.. it is designed to replace the "do you want to know more about the bible" tract - the goal is to use it to start "bible" studies.. the goal is to cover all of the congregation's territory in 4 weeks, similar to other campaigns in the past.

  unlike other campaigns, though, the congregations can order as many as they would like - they are not limited to 50 per publisher.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  per the letter to the BOE, all of this is strictly confidential

  Thanks for the heads-up sir82! Also, I have a question.

  Do these so-called "special" campaigns, such as this, normally have the "confidential" statement in the letter to the BOE?

  At times I do let my insider info from this site out of the bag early enough. Even before the elders know about it. And from the vibes I get from them, they seem perplexed why I know before them. Even jealous.

  But really, what can they do about it?Will the BOE be obligated to find out my sources or to inquire how I even know something confidential since I'm not an elder? I can alway say that an elder told me, but I can't tell who because that is also "confidential". Maybe this will make them start to lose trust from among themselves, thinking that info leaked from one of them.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  2 Special Pioneers 1 Missionary sick with Chronic fatigue- Quit Ministry!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2 special pioneers i knew were at the assembly last year i wanted to know how they were since they have special pioneered for 20 years.

  both got sick and have chronic fatigue.

  they quit pioneering to rest and get better.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  Recently a regular pioneer/MS relinquished his privileges. Juggling that along with his secular job was too much. What didn't help was that it seemed that he was just "used" by the elders. While being single and in his early 30's, the BOE assumed that he should/could do what was asked of him. No commendation or appreciation from the elders.

  It seems that all too many JWs who are in the "elite" group are getting sick in one way or another at an accelerated rate. Sad.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  WT Comments (2/25 RESPONDING) FEATURING AK-JEFF

  by V in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  correction: this article was originally attributed to another visiting speaker (alltimejeff) in error..

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  Alligator Wisdom

  As you say, this is recycled stuff.

  Right you are!

  Besides being cut and paste from prior Kingdom Ministries and magazines, this article (along with last week's) was given as talks during the Saturday morning symposium for the 2006 "Deliverance at Hand" District Conventions. Yes, rehash.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Are brothers discouraged from using props in talks?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few years ago in my old hall, it was common to see brothers use props in their talks, whether it was a public talk or during one of the theo.

  school talks.. now, noone uses props.. just one of the many things gone by the wayside that used to make talks more interesting..

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  Alligator Wisdom

  The speaker at the public talk last Sunday used a prop. Albeit a small one, he did use one. I'd say about 5% of our public talks speakers uses props. Less than 1% uses props for the TMS/Service Meeting.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)